Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

04/03/2023 03:30 PM Senate EDUCATION

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03:31:41 PM Start
03:33:53 PM SB113
03:49:52 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
04:10:00 PM SB97
04:39:28 PM SB110
05:06:20 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 113 REAA FUND: MT. EDGECUMBE, TEACHER HOUSING TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 113 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= SB 97 TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
- Invited & Public Testimony -
*+ SB 110 SCHOOL/UNIVERSITY EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSUR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
--- Invited & Public Testimony ---
Consideration of Governor’s Appointees:
University of AK Board of Regents - Joey Crum
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
        SB 113-REAA FUND: MT. EDGECUMBE, TEACHER HOUSING                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:33:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 113                                                               
"An Act relating to the  regional educational attendance area and                                                               
small municipal  school district fund; relating  to Mt. Edgecumbe                                                               
High School; and relating to teacher housing."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:34:12 PM                                                                                                                    
TIM  GRUSSENDORF,  Staff,  Senator Lyman  Hoffman,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  said  SB  113 proposes  equalizing                                                               
construction  and  maintenance   funding  opportunities  for  Mt.                                                               
Edgecumbe  High  School and  making  changes  to all  maintenance                                                               
grants  for rural  teacher  housing. He  said  the discussion  on                                                               
these  changes arose  during a  Senate Finance  Committee meeting                                                               
where the  Department of  Education discussed  major maintenance,                                                               
deferred  maintenance, and  construction  projects.  He said  the                                                               
issue  of  who  brings  forward  projects to  be  funded  by  the                                                               
legislature was raised during  the discussion because, currently,                                                               
Mt.  Edgecumbe  must rely  on  the  executive branch  to  request                                                               
funding  directly  from  the legislature.  Mt.  Edgecumbe  cannot                                                               
submit requests for  projects to be put on  the major maintenance                                                               
list  as other  school districts  can.  He compared  this to  the                                                               
legislature's  responsibility  to  advocate for  the  unorganized                                                               
borough.   He  noted   that  the   legislature  does   not  often                                                               
collectively prioritize  unorganized areas due to  the many other                                                               
issues they have to address.  Similarly, Mt. Edgecumbe is a place                                                               
that sometimes  falls through the  cracks despite  people looking                                                               
out for  it. SB 113 would  address these issues and  provide more                                                               
equitable funding opportunities.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:36:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRUSSENDORF read  the following  sectional  analysis for  SB
113:                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB  113:  related  to REAA  fund,  Mt.  Edgecumbe  High                                                                  
     School, and Teacher Housing                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1: amends  language  to  AS 14.11.025(A)  that                                                                  
     provides   the  Department   of  Education   and  Early                                                                    
     Development  the authority  to make  disbursements from                                                                    
     the REAA fund to provide grants.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Adds Mt.  Edgecumbe to the eligibility  list for school                                                                    
     construction and major maintenance grants.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Adds projects for housing that  is located and owned by                                                                    
     the state, or a  regional education attendance area, or                                                                    
     a  small   municipal  school  district,  and   that  is                                                                    
     provided  to   teachers  working  in   the  educational                                                                    
     attendance   area  or   the   small  municipal   school                                                                    
     district.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2: amends  language  to  AS 14.11.030(a)  that                                                                  
     adds Mt. Edgecumbe High School  to the eligibility list                                                                    
     for   school   construction   and   major   maintenance                                                                    
     projects; and  adds teacher housing to  the eligibility                                                                    
     list for  major maintenance  for funding from  the REAA                                                                    
     fund.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3:  deletes language  that the  unobligated and                                                                  
     unexpended  cash balance  of  the fund  may not  exceed                                                                    
     $70,000,000.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:37:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS said  he knows  there is  a tremendous  need for                                                               
rural housing in Alaska. He asked about the use of funding.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRUSSENDORF replied that the  funding would primarily address                                                               
the  major maintenance  issues of  existing teacher  housing, not                                                               
the  construction of  new housing.  The foremost  purpose of  the                                                               
fund is  school construction. Maintenance  would be  secondary if                                                               
there  were money  remaining. School  construction is  the fund's                                                               
purpose, but  the department would place  maintenance and teacher                                                               
housing on equal footing if sufficient money remained.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:38:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL said  the concept is excellent,  and he appreciates                                                               
the optimism in Section 3.  He asked whether the department would                                                               
rank  Mt.  Edgecumbe  projects alongside  REAA  projects  on  the                                                               
priority list.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUSSENDORF replied that was his understanding.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   KIEHL  asked   whether   the   department  would   need                                                               
instruction on  when to apply. He  opined that it is  a bit weird                                                               
because different  sections of the  department run  Mt. Edgecumbe                                                               
and the list.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUSSENDORF  replied that he did  not know the answer  to the                                                               
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:39:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  suggested asking department staff  the question when                                                               
they testify on the fiscal notes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  said AHFC  retains  the  ability to  assist  with                                                               
teacher  housing. He  echoed the  Senate Steven's  recognition of                                                               
Alaska's substantial  unmet rural housing needs,  emphasizing the                                                               
importance of  construction and maintenance.  He stated  that the                                                               
language on page  2, line 12, remained unchanged.  He asked about                                                               
the sponsor's preferences for  prioritizing major maintenance and                                                               
teacher housing alongside school maintenance projects.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUSSENDORF stated  that in past discussions,  members of the                                                               
Senate  Finance  Committee  expressed their  preference  to  rank                                                               
teacher housing maintenance  projects alongside major maintenance                                                               
needs.  If  warranted, a  project  could  rise  to first  on  the                                                               
maintenance list.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:41:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  said he would  like to hear from  the Department                                                               
of  Education   and  Early  Development  (DEED)   about  the  two                                                               
positions listed in the fiscal notes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:41:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  invited  the DEED  representatives  to  review  the                                                               
fiscal notes for SB 113.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:42:17 PM                                                                                                                    
LACEY SANDERS,  Deputy Commissioner, Department of  Education and                                                               
Early Development  (DEED), Juneau,  Alaska, said the  fiscal note                                                               
for SB  113, OMB 2737,  addressed School Finance  and Facilities.                                                               
DEED  would need  two new  permanent full-time  positions: School                                                               
Finance  Specialist II  and Building  Management Specialist.  She                                                               
said DEED  lacks expertise in  teacher housing and  dwelling, and                                                               
the Capital  Improvement Project process would  expand to include                                                               
Mt.  Edgecumbe High  School,  necessitating hiring  knowledgeable                                                               
individuals. These individuals would  travel twice a year, either                                                               
to rural  locations throughout  the state  or Mt.  Edgecumbe High                                                               
School.  The fiscal  note encompasses  one-time setup  and annual                                                               
rate  costs for  the  new positions.  Additionally, it  allocates                                                               
$6,000  as  a  placeholder  for legal  expenses  associated  with                                                               
revising  and  establishing  regulations.  SB  113  would  entail                                                               
extensive  regulatory modification  to encompass  teacher housing                                                               
and the addition of Mt. Edgecumbe High School.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:44:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS said  he finds the positions to  be excessive. He                                                               
questioned  the  purpose and  cost  of  the positions  by  asking                                                               
exactly what the  individuals in these roles  are overseeing, how                                                               
much money is involved, and why  it costs nearly $300,000 for two                                                               
people to perform the work.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:57 PM                                                                                                                    
HEIDI TESHNER,  Acting Commissioner, Department of  Education and                                                               
Early  Development  (DEED),  Juneau,  Alaska,  replied  that  Mt.                                                               
Edgecumbe  High School  lacks staff  members capable  of handling                                                               
their  applications  in  the Capital  Improvement  Program  (CIP)                                                               
process.  While Mt.  Edgecumbe  has  some facilities  maintenance                                                               
personnel,  they focus  on day-to-day  tasks.  This new  position                                                               
would oversee all  ongoing and future projects. She  said she did                                                               
not recall the  exact number of current  projects. She emphasized                                                               
that this role  would be full-time, managing all  projects at Mt.                                                               
Edgecumbe High  School, and the  additional person  would provide                                                               
expertise related to teacher  housing and dwellings, particularly                                                               
in terms of necessary specifications.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:45:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL asked  if both  positions would  advocate for  Mt.                                                               
Edgecumbe  projects and  evaluate  ranking  compared to  projects                                                               
from other locations.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER TESHNER  responded  by  explaining that  the                                                               
proposed position  would not have  the responsibility  of ranking                                                               
projects;  instead,  the  individual would  focus  on  submitting                                                               
applications  for Mount  Edgecumbe. She  said an  existing three-                                                               
person  team  handles  the  ranking  of  all  projects  that  are                                                               
submitted.  She clarified  that  the new  position  could not  be                                                               
involved  in   the  ranking  process  due   to  the  department's                                                               
inability  to   apply  for  a  district.   Therefore,  a  neutral                                                               
individual would be needed to help Mt. Edgecumbe apply.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:46:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN opened public testimony  on SB 113; finding none, she                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:47:15 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:47:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:47:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS moved  to report SB 113,  work order 33-LS0449\A,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:47:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN found  no objection and SB 113 was  reported from the                                                               
Senate Education Standing Committee.                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 113 Hearing Request 03.23.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 113
SB 113 Version A 03.23.2023.PDF SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 113
SB 113 Sponsor Statement 03.23.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 113
SB 113 Sectional Analysis 03.23.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 113
SB 113 Fiscal Note EED-SFF 03.29.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 113
SB 97 Hearing Request Memo 3.13.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 97 Version A 03.17.2023.PDF SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 97 Transmission Letter 03.17.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 97 Sectional Analysis 3.10.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 97 Fiscal Note EED-SSA 03.07.2024.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 97
SB 110 Hearing Request 03.23.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Version A 03.23.2023.PDF SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Sponsor Statement 03.23.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Sectional Analysis 04.03.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Fiscal Note EED-PEF 03.24.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Fiscal Note UA-SS 03.30.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Fiscal Note DOA-DRB 03.31.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Presentation 04.03.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Supporting Document - ISER 2018 Research Summary 03.31.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Testimony - Kenai Pennisula Borough School District 03.31.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Testimony - Ketchikan Gateway Borough School Districts 03.31.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Testimony - Mat-Su Borough School District 03.31.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
SB 110 Testimony - Rodney Dial 03.31.2023.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 110
Joey Crum - Resume_Redacted.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Joey Crum - Board Application_Redacted.pdf SEDC 4/3/2023 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska